New AddingtonBromley

Newabro two
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By Daisy C on 28 Feb 2023


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10km/6mi

Ascent

93m

Descent

196m

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Description

This route uses the woods bordering New Addington, then over fields to Coney Hall, up and over Hayes Common, past Hayes station and then through suburban Bromley. It avoids the road-no-pavement walking and problematic A232 crossing of NewaBro 1 plus the (possibly difficult to navigate) path through Bromley Common which although apparently in use are on private land, not a right of way. The majority is long stretches through quiet woodland, plus a few fields and grassy green spaces, and a small patch of heathland in West Wickham Common (part of Hayes Common). It is about 2/3 off-road. Coney Hall and Hayes have eating and transport links. From Hayes to Bromley, is mostly roads but quieter ones where possible without taking frequent turns. Hayes is the edge of the North Downs and there are a few steep climbs, particularly just after Coney Hall.

When going along Addington Vale (green space) you could follow the roadsides but this route follows some well worn paths along the valley, you just need to end up in the NW corner, by Kestrel Way. The woods alongside New Addington feel surprisingly peaceful, given how close they are to the housing. There's no formal right of way but they are owned by Croydon Council. Because of the woods' linear shape I think it would be easy to correct if you took a wrong turn. Coming in the other direction the turn off for Kestrel Way isn't signed, but it is the first on the rising slope after the meadow at Castlehill Ruffs. There are only two further turnings which are both fairly soon.

St Johns Church and Wickham Court School are attractive, perhaps for a halfway snack. There is a possible 1km shortcut after Coney Hall using the London Loop "Link" to Hayes Station, you could cross the A232 back at the lights at the end of Kingsway, or use the traffic island near Gates Green Rd. It is probably significantly less enjoyable than Hayes (and West Wickham) Common. The actual route is on the London Loop from St Johns church until the small car park on the common, where you cross the A232 at traffic lights, and head fairly straight until emerging onto Hayes Common's meadow. Next is the suburban road section, but it does cross a pair of small "village greens" and use a green alley type footpath just before Bromley centre.

Not wheelchair accessible, due to some steep slopes, a dry weather muddy section in Castlehill Ruffs, fallen trees/roots/logs across the path, stiles, steps and some uneven ground. The steep slopes are unavoidable unless, perhaps, you take a road route

This route uses the woods bordering New Addington, then over fields to Coney Hall, up and over Hayes Common, past Hayes station and then through suburban Bromley. It avoids the road-no-pavement walking and problematic A232 crossing of NewaBro 1 plus the (possibly difficult to navigate) path through Bromley Common which although apparently in use are on private land, not a right of way. The majority is long stretches through quiet woodland, plus a few fields and grassy green spaces, and a small patch of heathland in West Wickham Common (part of Hayes Common). It is about 2/3 off-road. Coney Hall and Hayes have eating and transport links. From Hayes to Bromley, is mostly roads but quieter ones where possible without taking frequent turns. Hayes is the edge of the North Downs and there are a few steep climbs, particularly just after Coney Hall.

When going along Addington Vale (green space) you could follow the roadsides but this route follows some well worn paths along the valley, you just need to end up in the NW corner, by Kestrel Way. The woods alongside New Addington feel surprisingly peaceful, given how close they are to the housing. There's no formal right of way but they are owned by Croydon Council. Because of the woods' linear shape I think it would be easy to correct if you took a wrong turn. Coming in the other direction the turn off for Kestrel Way isn't signed, but it is the first on the rising slope after the meadow at Castlehill Ruffs. There are only two further turnings which are both fairly soon.

St Johns Church and Wickham Court School are attractive, perhaps for a halfway snack. There is a possible 1km shortcut after Coney Hall using the London Loop "Link" to Hayes Station, you could cross the A232 back at the lights at the end of Kingsway, or use the traffic island near Gates Green Rd. It is probably significantly less enjoyable than Hayes (and West Wickham) Common. The actual route is on the London Loop from St Johns church until the small car park on the common, where you cross the A232 at traffic lights, and head fairly straight until emerging onto Hayes Common's meadow. Next is the suburban road section, but it does cross a pair of small "village greens" and use a green alley type footpath just before Bromley centre.

Not wheelchair accessible, due to some steep slopes, a dry weather muddy section in Castlehill Ruffs, fallen trees/roots/logs across the path, stiles, steps and some uneven ground. The steep slopes are unavoidable unless, perhaps, you take a road route

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Grade 4: Route includes very rough surfaces including deep ruts, steep loose gravel, unmade paths and deep muddy sections. Wheelchairs may experience traction/wheel spin issues.
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Accessibility

Is this route step and stile free?

Not present at time of survey Free of stiles (1)
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Measurements

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The narrowest part of the path is 75.0cm (1)

The steepest uphill gradient walking East 30.0% (1)

The steepest uphill gradient walking West 30.0% (1)

The steepest camber gradient across the path 20.0% (1)

How clear is the waymarking on the route: Unclear in places (1)

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60.0% of the route is on roads (1)

65.0% of the route is lit at night (1)

65.0% of the route is paved (1)

15.0% of the route is muddy (1)

15.0% of the route is over rough ground (1)

10.0% of the route is through long grass (1)

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New Addington
Grid Ref TQ3821362234
Lat / Lon 51.34240° / -0.01699°
Easting / Northing 538,213E / 162,235N
What3Words oasis.ozone.goals
Bromley
Grid Ref TQ4041968709
Lat / Lon 51.40004° / 0.01721°
Easting / Northing 540,419E / 168,709N
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JohnMyerson

12 Dec 2023 (edited 21 Dec 2023) Autumn

A good route thanks to Daisy. I started at Bromley South Station. Suburban, tree-lined streets to Hayes are fairly quiet (314 bus route) Pleasant woodland through Hayes Common and following the London Loop. After West Wickham Church the field edges are slightly muddy near the stiles. After the second field it's possible to go straight on through the wood to meet the path in Birch Wood coming from Addington Road (see map #1) to save a little distance and road walking. Exiting from Birch Wood was a little tricky. Somehow I missed the first path even using GPS, but the second path comes out nicely on King Henry's Drive right next to a crossing refuge (see picture #4).
On December 20th I did some of the route again in reverse. It's possible to miss out the first bit of woodland path from Addington Vale by continuing on the grassy path as there's a large gap in the fence (#7)! In Beech Wood to turn towards the fields and miss out the road walk for West Wickham church, look out for the intertwined tree trunks (see my map and photo #8).

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    JohnMyerson

    13 Dec 2023

    I'm going to walk this route from New Addington to Hayes soon.

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Michael Stone

25 Jul 2023 Summer

I found the initial section from New Addington to Hayes enjoyable but the remainder pretty unremarkable. A stop in Hayes at a lovely micropub, https://whatpub.com/pubs/BRO/15134/real-ale-way-hayes , was very enjoyable. I would also recommend a quick few metre diversion for a look at Husseywell Park just after that. I loved that but there was little to excite therafter. I may well be tempted to return to the pub and, if so, I would merge in the local Three Commons Circular Walk (http://www.gps-routes.co.uk/routes/home.nsf/routeslinkswalks/three-commons-walking-route#) finish in Hayes rather then progressing to Bromley.


Strider

22 Jul 2023 Summer

I walked from New Addington to Bromley.
A walk of 2 halves. Addington to Hayes is common land and fields. Hayes to Bromley is suburban streets.
Daisy C's overview is a good summary of this route. Very pleasant undulating walk over picturesque fields and gravelly wooded commons. Lots of stiles, and where paths have become rivulets in Winter they are V shaped in profile. Benches near ancient earthworks and on Hayes Common.
From Hayes High Street quiet suburban roads with green patches all the way to Bromley High Street. I grew up in this area and Bromley has changed almost beyond recognition, I like the pedestrianised area but it is all so very ugly now.
A good walk avoiding Major roads and narrow lane walking. Okay for wheels from Hayes to Bromley but not from Hayes to New Addington.


Derick Rethans

16 Jul 2023 Summer

I walked this on a slightly cloudy Saturday afternoon, from New Addington to Bromley.

A route of two halves really. From New Addington the route first follows a path up Addington Vale (photo #1), which was a little tricky to navigate as the paths weren't on OpenStreetMap yet (they are now), especially into the woods (photo #2) that stretch between here and Kent Gate. There is a 25 meter stretch of annoying road walking (photo #3), but you soon get to go through fields towards Wickham Court School (photo #4, #5) and across Coney Hall Recreation Ground to Coney Hall (photo #6). From Coney Hall it is a fairly steep (photo #7) section up towards Hayes Common (photo #8), but it is necessary as it is otherwise hard to cross the A232. Down into Hayes (with shops, photo #9) was nice, through woods. From Hayes the route changes into suburban walking (photo #10, #12, #13), and although there are some footpaths (photo #11) and greenery, I am knocking off a star.

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    JohnMyerson

    18 Dec 2023

    The road walking can be avoided by turning right near the bottom of Birch Wood to reach the fields towards West Wickham Church (see my map).

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    Daisy C

    18 Dec 2023

    Thanks John, that's good advice. I thought about that path, but it isn't a Right of Way and none of the paths in Birch and Rowdown Woods are labelled either. So I went with the road walking instead (50m with a pavement and no crossing!) thinking if people see it on the map they can choose the short cut themselves.

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Daisy C

28 Feb 2023 Winter

A peaceful and enjoyable route, although the northern part in well-to-do Bromley is busier and a bit samey. I started at Bromley but also walked the New Addington woods the other way for ElmNew 2.


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