LongnorBakewell

Lonbak two
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By Hugh Hudson on 18 Aug 2022


Distance

18km/11mi

Ascent

357m

Descent

518m

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Description

Alternate version of LONBAK 1 after walking and reviewing it for the monster national parks trail project.

This is mostly the same route more accurately plotted. The main route change is to use the direct upper Lathkill Dale path out of Monyash rather than the Limestone Way which is rougher and less direct. The route into Bakewell has been changed to avoid steep steps and main road walking, and I made a very small change just east of the A515 to reflect what the trodden paths do on the ground rather than using a right of way that is no longer visible or signposted - this also reduces the main road walking

Alternate version of LONBAK 1 after walking and reviewing it for the monster national parks trail project.

This is mostly the same route more accurately plotted. The main route change is to use the direct upper Lathkill Dale path out of Monyash rather than the Limestone Way which is rougher and less direct. The route into Bakewell has been changed to avoid steep steps and main road walking, and I made a very small change just east of the A515 to reflect what the trodden paths do on the ground rather than using a right of way that is no longer visible or signposted - this also reduces the main road walking

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Reviews - 3

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Is this route good enough? -  Yes (3)

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Grade 4: Route includes very rough surfaces including deep ruts, steep loose gravel, unmade paths and deep muddy sections. Wheelchairs may experience traction/wheel spin issues.
Access grade X: At least one stile, flight of steps or other obstacle that is highly likely to block access for wheelchair and scooter users.
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Facilities

Facilities in the middle third of this route.

Present at time of survey Public toilet (1)
Present at time of survey Wheelchair accessible toilet (1)
Present at time of survey Supermarket (1)
Present at time of survey Restaurant (1)
Maybe present Vegan restaurant (1)
Maybe present Accommodation (1)
Maybe present Accommodation < £50 (1)
Present at time of survey Campsite (1)
Not present at time of survey Bothy (1)
Maybe present Free wifi (1)
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Not present at time of survey Train station (1)
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Not present at time of survey Picnic table (1)
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Not present at time of survey Ferry (1)

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Not present at time of survey Scrambling (1)
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Maybe present Likely to flood (1)
Present at time of survey Long grass sections (1)
Not present at time of survey Crops encroaching on path (1)
Not present at time of survey Diverted path (1)

Obstacles

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Present at time of survey Stiles (1)
Present at time of survey Step and kerbs (1)
Present at time of survey Possible to avoid steps, if applicable (1)
Not present at time of survey Flights of steps (1)
Present at time of survey Gates (1)
Present at time of survey Kissing gates (1)
Not present at time of survey Locked gates (1)
Not present at time of survey Disables access gates (1)
Not present at time of survey Cycle barriers (1)
Not present at time of survey Ladders (1)
Not present at time of survey Cattle grids (1)
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Present at time of survey Narrow bridges (1)
Not present at time of survey Ferry required (1)
Present at time of survey Acceptable road walking (1)
Not present at time of survey Unacceptable road walking (1)
Not present at time of survey Dangerous road crossings (1)
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Not present at time of survey Cattle possible (1)
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Not present at time of survey Tidal area (1)
Not present at time of survey Potential falls (1)
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Not present at time of survey Remote area (1)
Not present at time of survey Mountainous area (1)
Not present at time of survey Military training area (1)
Not present at time of survey No visible path (1)
Present at time of survey Seasonal nesting birds (1)
Present at time of survey Other hazards (1)

Accessibility

Is this route step and stile free?

Not present at time of survey Free of stiles (1)
Not present at time of survey Free of single steps/kerbs (1)
Present at time of survey Free of flights of steps (1)
Not present at time of survey Free of other obstacles (1)

Measurements

Surveyors were asked to measure the narrowest and steepest parts of paths.

The narrowest part of the path is 26.0cm (1)

The steepest uphill gradient East: no data

The steepest uphill gradient walking West 14.9% (1)

The steepest camber: no data

How clear is the waymarking on the route: Clear (1)

Successfully completed

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Small Pug-sized dog (0)
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Large St. Bernard-sized dog (0)
Standard pram (0)
Off-road rugged pram (0)
Standard wheelchair (0)
Off-road rugged wheelchair (0)
Standard mobility scooter (0)
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Recommended by an expert

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Off-road rugged pram (0)
Standard wheelchair (0)
Off-road rugged wheelchair (0)
Standard mobility scooter (0)
Off-road rugged mobility scooter (0)

Terrain

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5.0% of the route is on roads (1)

2.0% of the route is lit at night (1)

10.0% of the route is paved (1)

15.0% of the route is muddy (1)

20.0% of the route is over rough ground (1)

5.0% of the route is through long grass (1)

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4X August 2022 by Lynn Jackson
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Longnor
Grid Ref SK0887064919
Lat / Lon 53.18132° / -1.86873°
Easting / Northing 408,870E / 364,919N
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Bakewell
Grid Ref SK2176368509
Lat / Lon 53.21322° / -1.67557°
Easting / Northing 421,763E / 368,509N
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reviews


Ken

30 Aug 2022 Summer

I walked Longnor to Bakewell. Three buses to the start so I didn't get away until noon. Nice exit from Longnor and lots of easy pleasant walking. Yes the section at Lathkill Dale did slow me down but no worse than other locations. New to me the approach into Bakewell. All first class, five stars, but due to time restraint I didn't get to sample any of the inns along the way.

  • Hugh Hudson

    Hugh Hudson

    30 Aug 2022

    Thanks Ken - glad you enjoyed it!

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Hugh Hudson

24 Aug 2022 Summer

I was a little reluctant to be the first reviewer of this route because I haven't yet walked it end to end in its current form, and I don't think I have ever walked the Butts Road route out of Bakewell. I have walked and enjoyed the direct path through Upper Lathkill dale to Monyash, but that was a few years ago and I wasn't thinking about potential obstacles and difficulties at the time. The rest of the route is the same as LONBAK 1, which I walked and reviewed in more detail last week. As I said in my review of that, this is a fine walk for fit walkers, but it is quite strenuous and probably not suitable for wheelchairs, buggies etc due to rough ground and stone stiles.


Lynn Jackson

23 Aug 2022 (edited 25 Aug 2022) Summer

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Summary: This is a great route for confident walkers. I would advise Lonbak One for those with balance concerns as there are boulder paths beyond the footbridge.

I walked from Bakewell to Longdon on a damp, overcast August day.

The signs are clear and the paths are walked enough for you to be able to follow them. I had no problems getting from Bakewell to Over Haddon and although there were one or two cars passing me on the way into Lathkill Dale, they were slow and parking above the Dale.

Lathkill Dale is made of two parts on this route. The first lower part is woodland with wide gravel paths taking me past an empty Lathkill up to the footbridge. The second upper part becomes more exposed and dramatic, showing off the limestone reef structures that make Lathkill Dale so special. From this point the path becomes uneven and narrow until the top of the Dale when you go through a small wood. This opens onto a boulder path, the rocks were slippery and I was grateful for the trekking poles to help me get over them.

Toilets are situated immediately after the Dale and you quickly walk into Monyash, where I came to a pub and café – a perfect stop as I was now more than halfway to Longnor.
From here the route follows the same paths as Lonbak One and so I would suggest reading those reviews as well as this.

After a wiggle out of Monyash and past a few fields, I began the walk along walled drover lanes (initially grassy but becoming gravel and eventually opening to a small tarmacked road). These lanes eventually led to the A515.

The A515 is a busy road but did not have a constant stream of traffic and I able to cross it without difficulty.

From there there right path takes you to a small underpass where I went under the High Peak Trail. Another field and I was again walking a small, quiet road.

You are walking on the edge of the Peak District National Park on this road, which is why I passed a field on my right being quarried for its stone.

But walking up the rise I came to the view of High Wheeldon and a small road with a footpath sign on the other side.

The footpath points to the gate and path that goes straight up High Wheeldon. I went through the gate and found the lower Slow Ways paths on the other side of the wall, not visible from the road.

Walking around High Wheeldon gives another dramatic view of the face of Aldery Cliff and the stone building above it.

I opened the gate onto the road and walked a short distance to a fork and took the right gravel track. Going over one more stile, a hedged path and a footbridge I was faced with a small hill. Going over that I saw a small dale (which looks as if it can get very muddy in winter) and another small hill to get me into Longnor. It’s a very short hill though and a 10-minute walk will get you into the village.

This is lovely walk and I think is worth 5 stars.

  • Hugh Hudson

    Hugh Hudson

    24 Aug 2022

    Thanks Lynn, I am glad you enjoyed it, and this is a very helpful review.

    I am not convinced that the LONBAK 1 route out of Lathkill dale is any easier - it also crosses rock bands, has narrow sections, stone stiles and more ascent and descent. A fully accessible route would probably have to stay out of Lathkill Dale, which would be a shame and would almost certainly mean more exposure to traffic.

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