EdaleUpper Derwent Visitor Centre

Edaupp two
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By Ken on 09 Sep 2023


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This route offers the correct route along the permissive paths from Fairholmes to Lockerbrook. The route involves some decent climbs which are rewarded with great views

This route offers the correct route along the permissive paths from Fairholmes to Lockerbrook. The route involves some decent climbs which are rewarded with great views

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Grade 4: Route includes very rough surfaces including deep ruts, steep loose gravel, unmade paths and deep muddy sections. Wheelchairs may experience traction/wheel spin issues.
Access grade X: At least one stile, flight of steps or other obstacle that is highly likely to block access for wheelchair and scooter users.
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Facilities

Facilities in the middle third of this route.

Not present at time of survey Public toilet (1)
Not present at time of survey Wheelchair accessible toilet (1)
Not present at time of survey Supermarket (1)
Not present at time of survey Restaurant (1)
Not present at time of survey Vegan restaurant (1)
Not present at time of survey Accommodation (1)
Not present at time of survey Accommodation < £50 (1)
Not present at time of survey Campsite (1)
Not present at time of survey Bothy (1)
Not present at time of survey Free wifi (1)
Not present at time of survey Public phone (1)
Maybe present Mobile phone coverage (1)
Not present at time of survey Train station (1)
Not present at time of survey Bench (1)
Not present at time of survey Picnic table (1)
Not present at time of survey Bus stop (1)
Not present at time of survey Ferry (1)

Challenges

Potential challenges reported on this route. Some challenges are seasonal.

Not present at time of survey Scrambling (1)
Not present at time of survey Wading (1)
Not present at time of survey Swimming (1)
Not present at time of survey Climbing (1)
Not present at time of survey Stepping stones (1)
Maybe present Very slippery (1)
Maybe present Very muddy (1)
Maybe present Very icy (1)
Present at time of survey Likely to flood (1)
Not present at time of survey Long grass sections (1)
Not present at time of survey Crops encroaching on path (1)
Not present at time of survey Diverted path (1)

Obstacles

Obstacles on this route.

Not present at time of survey Stiles (1)
Present at time of survey Step and kerbs (1)
Not present at time of survey Possible to avoid steps, if applicable (1)
Present at time of survey Flights of steps (1)
Present at time of survey Gates (1)
Present at time of survey Kissing gates (1)
Not present at time of survey Locked gates (1)
Not present at time of survey Disables access gates (1)
Not present at time of survey Cycle barriers (1)
Not present at time of survey Ladders (1)
Present at time of survey Cattle grids (1)
Present at time of survey Fords (1)
Not present at time of survey Narrow bridges (1)
Not present at time of survey Ferry required (1)
Present at time of survey Acceptable road walking (1)
Not present at time of survey Unacceptable road walking (1)
Not present at time of survey Dangerous road crossings (1)
Not present at time of survey Walking on paths beside roads (1)
Present at time of survey Walking on verges beside roads (1)
Not present at time of survey Railway crossings (1)
Not present at time of survey River crossings (1)
Present at time of survey Cattle possible (1)
Not present at time of survey Horses possible (1)
Not present at time of survey Tidal area (1)
Not present at time of survey Potential falls (1)
Present at time of survey Exposed to elements (1)
Present at time of survey Remote area (1)
Not present at time of survey Mountainous area (1)
Not present at time of survey Military training area (1)
Not present at time of survey No visible path (1)
Maybe present Seasonal nesting birds (1)
Maybe present Other hazards (1)

Accessibility

Is this route step and stile free?

Present at time of survey Free of stiles (1)
Not present at time of survey Free of single steps/kerbs (1)
Not present at time of survey Free of flights of steps (1)
Not present at time of survey Free of other obstacles (1)

Measurements

Surveyors were asked to measure the narrowest and steepest parts of paths.

Narrowest part of path: no data

The steepest uphill gradient East: no data

The steepest uphill gradient West: no data

The steepest camber: no data

How clear is the waymarking on the route: Clear (1)

Successfully completed

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Small Pug-sized dog (0)
Small Labrador-sized dog (0)
Large St. Bernard-sized dog (0)
Standard pram (0)
Off-road rugged pram (0)
Standard wheelchair (0)
Off-road rugged wheelchair (0)
Standard mobility scooter (0)
Off-road rugged mobility scooter (0)

Recommended by an expert

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Small Pug-sized dog (0)
Small Labrador-sized dog (0)
Large St. Bernard-sized dog (0)
Standard pram (0)
Off-road rugged pram (0)
Standard wheelchair (0)
Off-road rugged wheelchair (0)
Standard mobility scooter (0)
Off-road rugged mobility scooter (0)

Terrain

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2.0% of the route is on roads (1)

There is no data on how much of this route is lit at night

Thereis no data on amount of route paved

10.0% of the route is muddy (1)

20.0% of the route is over rough ground (1)

There is no data on long grass

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Start and end points

Edale
Grid Ref SK1225185321
Lat / Lon 53.36464° / -1.81736°
Easting / Northing 412,251E / 385,321N
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Upper Derwent Visitor Centre
Grid Ref SK1725689369
Lat / Lon 53.40088° / -1.74193°
Easting / Northing 417,256E / 389,369N
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reviews


Hugh Hudson

29 Nov 2023 (edited 30 Nov 2023) Autumn

Walked from Edale to Fairholmes. An excellent route with fine views, but a lot of ups and downs and a few rough and steep sections. Jaggers Clough is forded, which I suspect could be tricky in spate. Despite the difficulties this is still the easiest route between the two "settlements" - the obstacles are inevitable given the geographic barriers and the hills are crossed without much unnecessary climbing.

From Edale station we go up a short distance on the road to the village then take the field path right, which has a stile and a squeeze stile early on. This path through the fields is fairly direct, a mixture of unsurfaced field paths and farm lanes, a little muddy in places but not too wet. We return to the road briefly in Nether Booth - take care on the section out of the hamlet.

Before too long we take the charming path left that passes a farm then fords a small stream before continuing up the hillside at a gentle gradient. The path is forced to descend by the deep defile of Jaggers Clough, we zigzag left and right before fording the stream, followed by perhaps the steepest climb of the walk.

We are soon on the grassy plateau between Kinder Scout and Win Hill, and we head straight on at the path crossroads down into the woods. The path takes a sharp right turn, and the side path left could easily be missed as it is unsignposted and a little indistinct at first, so watch your navigation closely. In normal circumstances the descent is easy, but for me it was slightly complicated by a fallen tree, which I was able to clamber under.

We cross Haggwater Bridge and climb again, crossing the busy Snake Road with care and continuing up the well engineered zigzags to the top of the hill, where we join a forest road. Here I ignored warnings that the bridlepath was "closed on weekdays", and was able to pass the outdoor centre and reach the permissive path easily without any sign of forestry work.

The permissive path down the hill is well engineered and signposted, and has a few steps in the steeper sections. The GPX plot is pretty good. We reach the road and cross to use a surfaced path to reach the visitor centre and the meeting point outside it.

Overall this is a very enjoyable walk and I am happy to give it the full five stars, but as a walker you should carry whatever food and drink you need and expect a few rough surfaces and minor obstacles.


Ken

09 Sep 2023 Summer

Some steep climbs which then offer stunning views. Potential for cattle, steps rough ground and paths shared with bikes. No services along the route. Plotting is good on recorded rights of ways and on the permissive section.

I walked from Fairholmes, Upper Derwent Visitor Centre. The place was busy even on this September Wednesday, it may have been the late summer weather but I guess it's busy most days based on the large car park, slick operation at the cafe and extensive picnic benches. For me this bustling location is remote and isolated, having walked in from Hathersage my only way out is to walk another Slow Way. The bus shelter proves my point where the timetable offers no buses Monday to Saturday only a Sunday service.

A notice at the start of the walk records a public path closure with as usual 'No alternative route'. All well and good for those setting out but my other option is to return to Hathersage the way I came. The notice does give some hope "Access will be maintained whenever reasonably possible". I give it a go.

The permissive paths are well signed and walked so easy to follow. It's a steep climb and at times has steps along the narrow path, signs state no cycles and I didn't meet any but riders do appear to treat any path as open to bikes.

The permissive path meets the closed bridleway. Here I can hear the distantant sound of forestry work, the reason for the closure, but turning south I have open fields to one side and no sign of work in progress. I'm soon at Lockerbrook Outdoor Centre where notices make clear where permissive paths are not.

It's downhill from here along a track used by traffic to the centre so although it's subject to the closure it is open. I guess the closure was really the wooded section further north. At a crossing of paths I continue downwards and after passing another Outdoor centre at Hagg Farm the Snake Pass road is crossed, no issues using eyes and ears to reach the path opposite.

It continues down to a bridge over the River Ashop. From here another climb to a point just north of Hope Cross then dropping again along a peaceful bridleway to Jaggers Clough, a ford here may offer a challenge after heavy rain. This is a lovely spot and far less busy than the similar bridge crossing at the foot of Jacob's Ladder on the Pennine Way.

The stream offers a chance to freshen up but is short lived as departure is another, albeit short, climb. Wow what a wonderful view at the top, the ridge from Lose Hill to Mam Tor and beyond, from a path new to me, always a delight. It's now a gentle descent so an easier climb if starting from Edale. The short section of road is not an issue and the alternative to the YHA would involve another climb.

Good to see a screen showing, what I assume to be, live train information but no the tail end of a station announcement warns this is not to be relied on. There will be a good number of disgruntled passengers if the train fails to show.


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